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Old 07-06-2012, 05:52 PM
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Hey everyone this is my first post ! I have been researching and looking into products the past month or so and have been trying to figure out a way to increase my wifi range on my cell phone. Ill tell you a little bit about my situation; I have a samsung Galaxy note phone and have it signed up with a voip service provider so i can make REAL CHEAP phone calls. The only downside to this is I do not have a data network on my phone so its strictly being used under WI FI. Which is okay with me, I can use my High speed internet at home and when im out and about I can pick up Public WiFi signals. But the annoying thing is that the range isnt always the best and it sucks having to try and find the best spot to improve the quality on the signal.

So has any one had any luck at improving there signal strength somehow? Is there a device that can be hooked up to your cell phone that is mobile enough to bring it with you publicy, or maybe hook up inside your car ? I have considered a WIFI repeater for my home to improve my signal , and then even considered a wifi repeater for my car to pick up public signals and amplify them.. if thats possible. But the latest gadget I came across was a big Parabolic satellite dish that you can mount up high on your house and apparently connect it to your router, and therefore send your wifi signal out in the public so you can use it for miles around your house. This sounds pretty cool to me. Here is a link to the one i saw on a website.

okay never mind apparently i cant post a website , but this is the name of the product and its sold by simple wifi.

24dBi Directional Long Range WiFi Parabolic Grid Antenna
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Old 07-06-2012, 07:41 PM
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But the annoying thing is that the range isnt always the best and it sucks having to try and find the best spot to improve the quality on the signal.
Public accessible wireless access points weren't designed and aren't capable of providing long range service to laptops and smartphones.

You could use a two radio full-duplex repeater set up. No, you cannot expect WDS store-and-forward repeating to work because of lack of WDS compatibility between manufactures.

I have a low power 2.4 GHz AP inside of my truck that connects to external antennas and radios to pick up nearby 900, 2,400, and 5,800 MHz access points.
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Old 07-07-2012, 05:45 AM
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WIFI need clear line of sight for long range since it is 2.4GHz signal that is absorbed easily by obstructions.

Given that most Wireless Router transmit at about 33mW there is so much you can do regardless of the Antenna (kind of a big purse will not change $10 bill into $20).

As a result, in many case trying is the only option.

Even if this or that Antenna helped someone else it might not help you given your specific environment.

I am not familiar with the linked Antenna per-se but there is nothing in it that will yield better result then any other High gain directional Antenna.

That said extending the rage (when there is a clear line of sight) for 100 - 200 feet with High gain Directional Antenna usually works.
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Old 07-08-2012, 03:44 PM
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Public accessible wireless access points weren't designed and aren't capable of providing long range service to laptops and smartphones.

You could use a two radio full-duplex repeater set up. No, you cannot expect WDS store-and-forward repeating to work because of lack of WDS compatibility between manufactures.

I have a low power 2.4 GHz AP inside of my truck that connects to external antennas and radios to pick up nearby 900, 2,400, and 5,800 MHz access points.
this is the first iv heard of an AP device in a truck. Iv heard of an access point but not i dont know a whole lot about the technical stuff. so you can use it to connect your eletronic devices like a laptop or cell phone? how could this AP device be connected to a cell phone. is that possible?
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:27 AM
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An "AP" is short for Access Point.

Anyway....I have seventeen (for now) 900 Mz AP sites scattered around the county, about every 3 to 5 miles apart, so I'm always in range of one of the APs. The 900 MHz client radio connects to a 2.4 GHz dual-polarity AP radio with a pair of external 6 dBi omni antennas, and I get 500 to 1,500 foot distance from my truck with laptop and smartphone.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:33 AM
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An "AP" is short for Access Point.

Anyway....I have seventeen (for now) 900 Mz AP sites scattered around the county, about every 3 to 5 miles apart, so I'm always in range of one of the APs. The 900 MHz client radio connects to a 2.4 GHz dual-polarity AP radio with a pair of external 6 dBi omni antennas, and I get 500 to 1,500 foot distance from my truck with laptop and smartphone.
wow thats interesting, so these 900mz APs connect to your home internet ? Im pretty new at this stuff so its all pretty weird to me still lol

does anyone know if an external antenna can be plugged into a cell phone to improve the wifi range? Other people on other forums have said that behind the cell phones case there are these spots for antenna hooks up so i looked at my phone and found a couple little spots that say R1 and R2, im wondering if these are the adapter hook up ports? Has any hooked up an antenna to a cell phone?
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Old 07-15-2012, 12:19 AM
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wow thats interesting, so these 900mz APs connect to your home internet ?
Ummm...a tad more than a "home internet" connection. A 100 Mbps fiber line and $200,000 worth of radios.

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i looked at my phone and found a couple little spots that say R1 and R2, im wondering if these are the adapter hook up ports? Has any hooked up an antenna to a cell phone?
Those look like Hirose UFL connectors for test ports and are good for only a very few insertion cycles.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:29 AM
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Ummm...a tad more than a "home internet" connection. A 100 Mbps fiber line and $200,000 worth of radios.

Those look like Hirose UFL connectors for test ports and are good for only a very few insertion cycles.
I already called samsung and they confirmed they can be used for external antennas, but there company only has tested this with a cell phone boosting antenna. Because obviously this supports the cell phone networks, they wouldnt give me any advice for wifi, because well wifi would be free internet! but im going to keep looking into this, i think it will work, it would be nice to find someone else that has succesfully done this with their phone and connected to a wifi network.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:50 AM
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Of course the UFL connector can be used with an external antenna...until it fails after a dozen insertions.

I don't know for a fact if the cellular side antenna or ports are used for 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi wireless. If they aren't, then using an external antenna won't accomplish anything.

Without an external antenna, a Wi-Fi enabled cellphone just simply isn't going to work reliably past one or two hundred feet from an indoor access point...*REGARDLESS* how much you would like for it to.
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