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Old 09-28-2006, 12:21 PM
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Hi all, I am wanting to set up a hotspot to service guests in a small motel.
I don't really have the time to get drawn in learning linux and setting up a linksys and was wondering if anyone knows of a good, cost effective hotspot in a box package that's available in NZ? It must be a complete package that includes a splash screen and logon...etc...
I see there are a few companies that will setup a modded linksys and sell you time tickets for you to on sell to your guests at a profit...but id still prefer to own the entire system myself if something is available.
Any help or advise would be appreciated..
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Old 09-29-2006, 06:01 AM
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If you want one to set up and own yourself, try m0n0wall. IIRC this can operate as a standalone hotspot, all you will need is a spare PC with two network cards and a standard access point.

I'm also developing a free RADIUS-based hotspot solution that can be used in conjunction with multiple Mikrotik or modified Linksys access points but it is still several months from being finished.
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Old 09-29-2006, 11:59 AM
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Thanks for the reply, I probabally don't even have the time for that....
After a bit of surfing I have found these,
OPALNET Products Wireless Networks ZyAIR
or this
CDW Product Overview: SMC EliteConnect SMCWHSG44-G 2.4GHz 802.11g Wireless Hotspot Gateway - gate

Has anyone had any experience with these or something similar.
What i am wanting is to have an AP gateway linked to an adsl modem.
I would like to access the net from my pc and laptop wirelessly, throught that wireless AP directly without a splash screen. I would also like guests to be able to access the net wirelessly through the AP, however, when they open their web browser they are confronted with a splash screen that requires a login and password. The guests will be able to buy 30mins to 2hrs worth of net time at the office where a logon and password would be printed out for them....
Any idea's or experience out there?

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Old 09-30-2006, 06:36 AM
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I haven't used these myself to be honest, though they seem to look fine by the specs. D-Link make these too and I'd choose either them or ZyXEL over the SMC one.

I have a friend who works for a commercial hotspot provider who has used these, and he didn't think they were too flash but I sense this is more because they didn't fit in with his business model.

Sorry I can't be any more helpful.
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Old 09-30-2006, 10:41 AM
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Thanks for the reply Jeremy, it seems to be a bit hard to find any real tests or reviews on these things, I may just have to bite the bullet and have a crack with one...
I was leaning towords the Zyxel also, it's a shame they are so pricey for what they really are...
Thanks for the input.
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:45 PM
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HI Heathen here is another model in New Zelaand I can source these the cost is arond $1500
EZ-HotSpot Kit WG-601 802.11b/g Secure Access Controller
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:27 AM
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Hi EL, thanks for that...
Do you know of someone that has one of these installed and running, i would like to give them a ring and have a yarn, pick their brains...
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Old 10-04-2006, 05:29 AM
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HI Heathen
the best people to talk to would sanpper networks on 09-415 4182
and have a talk to some there. they shoudl be able to awnser any questions you have there SRP is $1643.00 + GST and freight
also here is a link to the product this might also help

:: Fulbond Systems :: Internet Subscriber Gateway - WG-601

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Old 10-10-2006, 09:26 AM
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Thanks for the input guys..I have ordered a Handlink WG-601P hotspot setup so i will keep you all posted on the ease of install and setup...
Any suggestions on a cost effective omni antenna around 8dbi....i need to cover
about a 50m radius through a couple of wood/plaster walls...two stories high..

cheers,

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Old 10-11-2006, 05:27 AM
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8dBi Omni Directional Outdoor antenna $90.00 + GST and a 10M LMR-400 antenna cable with SMA adapter to connect to access point that has a detachable antenna $95.00 + GST and depending on your location allow $10 for freight. Regards EL
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Thanks for the info EL.....The WG-601P turned up today, it took about 30mins to set up and that was it...hotspot in a box.
Plugged a freebie xtra d-link modem into it POE, used the setup wizard to answer a few question and presto...if a lamer like me can get it sorted then anyone can..just need an omni antenna and some signage and we should be in business.
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DSE sell a nice cheap indoor 7dBi antenna and cable (XH8136) which may do the trick.
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Old 10-12-2006, 05:09 AM
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I take it thren that you got the unit from snapper net.

just also a note 2.4Ghz 7dBi Omni Directional Antenna for Access point / Network adapter with 0.5m cable SMA adapter to conntect to most access points that have a detachable antenna with swivel base wall mountable fpr $32.00 + GST and $5.00 for freight
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Old 10-12-2006, 10:28 AM
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Hi ya...I got the WG-601P from Paradigm PC's, they were quite a bit cheaper than everywhere else i could find and it only took one day to turn up...

The AP has two antenna on it so my plan was to leave one of them on and replace the other with an outdoors 6 or 8dbi omni antenna to boost the signal to surrounding units. The motel is quite compact so i dont need to cover a great distance but i do what to saturate the two storeys. I have the AP sitting about 2m from where the Antenna will be mounted (intend to mount antenna on the corner of the office at gutter height)
Is an outside antenna the way to go? or do the higher gain rubber ones that replace the origonal antenna do just as good a job?
I appreciate the help,

Antony.
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If you want to cover nearby buildings, then the outdoor omni will give better performance as it has less wall to punch throug, especially with a nice short cable run like that.
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Heathen: A quick followup on those hotspot managers... It appears that tons of those 'low-cost' hotspot appliances are vulnerable to tunneling through their DNS port.

Basically they will allow any traffic through port 53 to the internet even without authenticating, totally opening them up for abuse. I have seen how easy it is to exploit this.

Sadly, all the manufacturers need to do is implement a DNS relay in the hotspot (similar to ADSL routers for example) and it would quickly limit this problem. It might pay to see if your unit is vulnerable and if the manufacturers have released any updates for it.
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Old 11-05-2006, 09:38 AM
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I'm going through the same thing at the moment with a small motel and have just pu tin a ZoneCD box (http://www.publicip.net). It's really secure and customisable, free and a great use of an old P3 I had lying about. Now if only I could get the coverage sorted...
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Hi.
I'm an IT /Telco consultant just moved back to NZ after a number of years working in several countries. I'm working with a particular company (just launched) to setup a chain of HOTSPOTS throughout NZ.

Contact me if you'd like to setup your OWN HOTSPOT and link it into our network (all user billing taken care of). We manage all the users and billing and split the revenue 60/40. You will recieve 60% of the revenue one month after usage from all the "club users" who have logged on (cost to them USD$2-3 per 24hr block). Your setup cost is simply a specific model of Linksys router (under $200). Email me direct at this temp address: WIFIMobile@gmail.com

In the 90's I worked in the e-business "B2B" space for EDS and then founded Tranzsoft.com. Aside from "selling" the HOTSPOT service, I'm forming a new group to work in the B2C and D2C (direct to consumer) space (if anyone interested in joining).

regards Grant.
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How did you get on with your HOTSPOT? Happy to chat anytime... 021-906659. Check out TOMIZONE

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