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Old 08-03-2009, 10:40 AM
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Default Setting up a WIFI coverage for large area

I am trying to set up a wifi network for a hotel in UK . I made first plans and diagrams but I am not sure if the solution is good enough or too powerfull.
Here are some drowings of area to be covered.



Here is my diagram


I was thinking about using 4 Ubiquiti NanoStation5 loco briges and 3 wap4400 APs but I dont know if it would work.
What equipement should I use? I was thinking about bridging signal to tower and cottages by setting up 2 bridges on top floor and AP to give some coverage for higher floors

The budget is about £500- £1000. Speeds are not important but coverage and connection.
What are your recomendations?
Thanks for your help.
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:15 PM
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Can I just get 7 x Ubiquiti Bullet2HP and use them as in above diagram as bridge and access point? would it give me enough coverage?
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:01 PM
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Bullets are optimized for point to point links. SOHO routers are optimized for providing multiuser access in a small area.

Mesh routers are optimized for providing multiuser access in a large area.

Concrete with rebar, wood, ?
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:16 PM
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If you could make the 60 meter leap to the tower with a mesh router, I think you'd be home free running mesh throughout.
Look at open-mesh dot com. They have some interesting info.
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:27 PM
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Bullets are optimized for point to point links. SOHO routers are optimized for providing multiuser access in a small area.

Mesh routers are optimized for providing multiuser access in a large area.

Concrete with rebar, wood, ?
Welsh hard stone (.5 m thick

I would probably use bullet (bullet2 or bullet5HP?, its only 60m) to get signal to the tower and use D-Link DAP-2553 in wsd/ap mode to get it to cottages ahd another DAP-2553 upstairs to cover uncovered areas.
would that be good enough ?
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Old 08-03-2009, 02:39 PM
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If you could make the 60 meter leap to the tower with a mesh router, I think you'd be home free running mesh throughout.
Look at open-mesh dot com. They have some interesting info.
interesting, can I use those just as repeaters for my BELKIN N1 Vision (it doesnt support WDS)
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:22 PM
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interesting, can I use those just as repeaters for my BELKIN N1 Vision (it doesnt support WDS)
I believe the first (or at least one) unit needs ethernet connectivity to the net, but I'm just reading the site as you are.
For 29 dollars for their low end, might just replace it?
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:29 PM
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After long research I found this offer
Mesh Networks : confero24.com | WiFi/WLAN Antenna (Outdoor/Indoor, Omni-Directional, Sector/Panel), Cables, Boosters, Splitters

looks like perfect solution for me. Thanks for all your help.

p.s.

Too bad it is US version package what means I cant install it in uk (230v)
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:45 PM
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I use Linksys WRT-54Gs with freifunk firmware for my mesh. ~$45 per router, free software.

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Too bad it is US version package what means I cant install it in uk (230v)
the ad says 100 - 240 VAC input to the power supply

Power Supply
AC Input: 100 - 240 V
DC Output: 5V x 2A
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:11 PM
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yeah good point, only need to change the plug to uk type (costs like £1)
Exelent then, thanks for your support guys.
Just wondering how I got this website in pounds, not dollars (all prices were in pounds), cant seem to do it again.

If it works I would save few hundred
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:14 PM
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I ordered 10x pro open mesh routers with picostation2hp (flashed for open mesh), 5 outdoor covers, 15m cat6 cable and Passive poe injector for pico. looks like a good deal and should give a coverage for whole area. here are some plans:



cable is carried to the roof top as the walls there are much thiner (wood) whereas walls on the ground floor are 0.8m stone

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Old 08-24-2009, 04:15 AM
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You will want to use a mesh type wireless network where wireless nodes are interconnected to one another and find the best route to the gateway automatically. You can start with open-mesh.com... they are a free service that allows you to monitor the entire network from any web browser.

If you need advanced help, my company specializes in difficult implementations within steel and concrete structures. We have enabled wifi on just about every inch of several pre-WWII buildings.

Here's a bit about our software offering incase you have the need to meter & monitor access by device or username...


WiFiRUSH captive portal solution (integrated WiFi-CPA) makes creating a Wireless ISP / HotSpot easy, especially when Ubiquiti or Open-MESH access points are used. Our solution is robust, feature rich, and based on WiFi-CPA, Coovachilli (updated Chillispot), Orange-Mesh integration for robin-node monitoring similar to Open-mesh.

The control panel options allow the operator to manage an open wireless system for authenticated guest access and an encrypted carrier for private traffic simultaneously on the same device. All the features and settings are controlled centrally with an easy web based control panel.
Wifirush
If you are interested in trying it out, visit Wifi Rush:Support and request for an invite for a demo account.
Here is a list of features within our captive portal solution:
• Local Content, Advertising
• 100% customizable Walled Garden, Redirect pages
• Multiple Locations
• Accept PayPal, Credit Cards
• Voucher Access System
• Bandwidth Control
• MAC Authentication
• Firmware / x86 Client
• Usage Tracking and Reporting
• Express & Advanced HotSpot Modes
• 100% HotSpot Branding
• Local Captive Portal (LAN Interface)
• Import User Accounts (.CSV)
• Multiple Payment Gateways
• Traffic Logging
• meshDashboard
• mesh Firmware Manager
• Multi-Administration Support
• Enhanced MAC Authentication
• MikroTik Support
• HotSpots/AccessPoints
• Unlimitied HotSpot Profiles
• Unlimited Nodes (Gateways)

• Generate and Print Voucher Codes
WiFi-CPA™ provides the ability to generate and print voucher codes or user accounts based on a variety of parameters. It provides the ability to define valid usage duration, price, expiry date, maximum allowed usage in a session, minimum duration between logins, time interval during which usage is disallowed and more. The codes can be exported in .CSV or .TXT file format and printed on standard A 4 paper or Avery label sheets using any standard printer.
• User Management
The user management feature of WiFi-CPA™ allows the HotSpot operator to create and manage user accounts. Import .csv file to User Accounts in batches.
• Usage Monitoring
The HotSpot software allows the HotSpot operator to monitor the usage rate across multiple wireless HotSpot locations. In addition to the ability to view the usage statistics for various time horizons (daily, weekly, monthly, yearly). It also provides detailed graphical charts illustrating the usage.
• Sales Tracking
The ability to track daily, weekly, monthly and yearly sales for a single wireless HotSpot location or across multiple locations is a key feature of the HotSpot solution . This functionality allows the wireless HotSpot operators to obtain a clear view of the actual performance of the various HotSpot locations in near real time.
It also provides statistical and graphical illustration of the historical sales in various intervals of time.
• AccessPoint/Node Status
The Control Panel continuously monitors all the wireless HotSpot locations and displays the status of each of these locations (online, off-line, in use). It also sends email or pager alerts (SMS) to the wireless HotSpot operator if any of the locations are down. This critical functionality ensures that the wireless HotSpot network runs without any disruptions. Remotely enable and disable entire HotSpot networks or individual HotSpots.
• Add New Locations
One of the unique features of WiFi-CPA™ is that it allows the wireless HotSpot operator to instantly add additional new locations to the wireless network. This allows the WISP or the HotSpot operator to expand his wireless network in a rapid manner.
• Multiple Currency Support
This feature of the control panel allows operators in different countries to specify the usage fee in their local currency.

• Export/Import data in PDF & Excel
The control panel allows the operators to export user and usage data in PDF and Excel formats.
Import user account in .csv formats.
• Add Time
The control panel allows the operators to add time to existing Time Codes and User Accounts. In addition, the users can add time by using the online "Manage Account" from the login page..
• Bandwidth Management
This feature of the control panel allows the operator of the HotSpot to specify usage fees based on various bandwidth plans. The bandwidth plans include rate plans, cumulative data plans (daily and monthly) and plans that are a combination of rate & cumulative.
• Multiple Payment Gateways
WiFi-CPA™ allows Wireless HotSpot operators to accept payments directly to their PayPal, Google Checkout or merchant account.
• Free Usage Scenario
This feature is suited for HotSpot operators who provide a free service. Create Packages with zero cost, or use "Express" Login to create a click-and-go login process.
• Device Authentication
This feature allows devices such as IP phones, etc. to access your HotSpot network using their MAC address.
• Location based Advertisements
This optional feature allows the operator to display local ads in the login page. For example, a hotel could display the ads of the restaurants nearby thereby generate
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:17 AM
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By the way - We carry the open-mesh OM1P professional access points for the lowest price on the net - $43.95

OPEN-MESH OM1P- US Professional Router, Access Point, Wi-Fi MESH node - WiFiRUSH - Hotspot Systems

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